TP1383 - Birgidale

Grid reference :	NS 08237 59023
Type :	Pillar
Condition :	Remains
Flush Bracket Number :	S8520
Current use :	none
Historic use :	3rd order
Waypoint :	TP1383
County :	Strathclyde Region
Nearest town :	ROTHESAY

Nearby trigpoints, placenames  There are 10 photos for this trigpoint (view album). This trigpoint: Is ranked joint 7870th with 33 other trigs (more). Has a mean score of 5.00/10 (from 13 logged visits) Was First logged: 20th May 2003 Has never been found intact Was Last logged: 11th Aug 2012 Of the 13 logged visits, 5 recorded a location and of these.... All were within 16m The average error was 8m The closest was 2m

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Selection of photos for this Pillar. By Clochandighter By iainmac By iainmac ©peregrinus ©Firth of Forth By Pharisee See 4 more in the album.

Logged Visits:

11th Aug 2012  15:56  by coinea

Gridref: NS 08241 59018   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 2/10

11th Aug 2012  15:55  by Clochandighter

Gridref: NS 08242 59018   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 1/10

S8520 was DESTROYED BY VANDALS without OS consent. This was confirmed following a report in 2007. The pillar is probably still inside this cladding job. The cyan symbol is now deleted from the 1:50K (LR63) and 1:25K maps therefore the OS must deem this as destroyed. There is no name or date on the plaque affixed to this tomb so therefore by who or exactly when this was done remains unknown. The Island of Bute is nicely 'touristified' with the 'West Island Way' footpath network so it may have been done a part of that work. It is just such a shame that they chose to build around an iconic monument to map making rather than build a free standing monument independent of the triangulation pillar.

ex S8520 - Birgidale & GRP

29th Apr 2012  07:50  by Chalky

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Former trig replaced by a large round stone-built cairn.

8th Jul 2011  10:21  by descarte1

Gridref: NS 08239 59024   FB Number: GONE  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

Pillar has either been removed and replaced with this cairn or completely enclosed within it. The latter seems more likely due to the rather arbitrary cairn dimensions. Fairly low plateau but good intervisibility with other pillars on Bute. Parked by the memorial to the south-east and walked in along the mapped road. Easy going.

24th Feb 2011  11:45  by MAC.HAWK

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

As previously noted the (rather nice) cairn is certainly big enough to envelop a standard trig pillar. I noted peregrinus entry but until convinced otherwise I took the statement - This Former Trig Point etc - to imply the pillar has been removed & replaced by the cairn. However, I found the following website: http://isle-of-bute.org.uk/wiw3.shtml - giving us the following information --- The viewpoint cairn is the original trig point which has been eclosed with hewn stone and has a decorative and informative plaque affixed to it --- , no explanations but in all likelyhood due to damage (otherwise why?) and as such I now agree with peregrinus. Pretty good views in all directions, particularly to the west, although on todays visit it was rather overcast. Access a doddle on muddy, puddley track. NCOF!

24th Feb 2011  11:45  by SUE-C

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

11th May 2007  00:00  by lonesome_cowboy_burt

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Carrying on along the West Island Way, very hard to miss!

3rd Mar 2007  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Cairn is large enough to contain the pillar.

24th Dec 2006  11:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Stone pillar, no FB or spider; info board <This former trig point…> seems to suggest the trig has been encased. N side of track. Fine albeit grey view. FB was S8520 (OS). The OS commented on 5jan07 as follows: <The monument is indeed a pillar, it did have a flush bracket No S8520 and was last visited by us in 1977. The information was last sold to the public in 1982. So in 1982 it was still a usable pillar. My records still show it as a current pillar.> 22/7/09 reviewing my log, based on this OS info, Condition should be Damaged.

S8520 cairn top no spider ©peregrinus
Info board ©peregrinus
Info board ©peregrinus

12th Oct 2005  10:30  by Dallan72

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

"Found" whilst Geocaching nearby.

2nd Apr 2005  13:00  by Haggis Hunter

Gridref: NS 08243 59018   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 10/10

Despite the trig now long gone, it now has a viewpoint in it's position, fantastic views of Bute from here. After bagging this we went down to the nearby Geocache.

HH at the pillar ©Haggis Hunter

2nd Apr 2005  00:13  by Firth of Forth

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

Came with Haggis Hunter on our weekend trip to Bute.

On a warm early April day ©Firth of Forth

20th May 2003  17:00  by Pharisee

Gridref: NS 08249 59011   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Located on a hill at the southern end of the Isle of Bute. It stands beside a footpath known as “Lord James’ Ride”. The actual OS trig point has been replaced with a pillar built of cemented stone. There is a notice attached stating that the OS trig point once stood here but unfortunately makes no reference to the trig point’s original number. The thought occured to me that the new, circular, cairn is actually built around the original trig point but unfortunately there is no way of telling for sure.

The Cairn This monument stands where the trig point once stood.
Looking west The veiw to the west, towards the Sound of Bute