TP4856 - Moel Fferna

Grid reference :	SJ 11681 39797
Type :	Pillar
Condition :	Remains
Flush Bracket Number :	S3083
Current use :	none
Historic use :	Secondary
Waypoint :	TP4856
County :	Clwyd
Nearest town :	BALA

Nearby trigpoints, placenames  There are 5 photos for this trigpoint (view album). This trigpoint: Is ranked joint 3247th with 36 other trigs (more). Has a mean score of 5.96/10 (from 23 logged visits) Was First logged: 4th Apr 1985 Was Last found intact: 4th Apr 1985 Was Last logged: 7th May 2012 Of the 23 logged visits, 3 recorded a location and of these.... All were within 126m The average error was 46m The closest was 5m

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Selection of photos for this Pillar. By Terry L ©peregrinus By Father Ted ©Toshiro By Keith Stevens

Logged Visits:

7th May 2012  15:52  by RichardL

Gridref: SJ 11684 39802   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

A few lumps of the pillar (or the base) are still incorporated into the shelter wall at the summit of this rather peaty hill - otherwise no sign of the trig found, without scratching around in the mud.

28th Aug 2011  13:16  by rhosrobin

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

3rd Aug 2011  15:12  by heavyhorses

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Nuttall bagging .............

11th Jun 2011  17:09  by PeterKirkwood

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

1st Aug 2009  11:47  by Terry L

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

John Nuttall's drawing shows this to have been a concrete pillar. The Nuttalls give information about its demise on page 113 of their book. The "neat wall shelter" is welcome, but no compensation for the loss of the trig. Good easy walk along the North Berwyn Way, along clear paths & tracks, starting from Cynwyd & descending into Llidiart-y-Parc. Public. Access Land. Berwyn Mntns.

"Neat wall shelter" on site of former Moel Fferna pillar

25th Jul 2009  16:36  by Glaslyn

Gridref: SJ 11680 39790   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Re vist. Previously here on round of Welsh Hewitts 2005. Long gone but great location.

26th Apr 2008  06:17  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Trig 2 of 9 on the Leventon Line, Llangollen to Barmouth.

Alan Duncan on Fferna ©peregrinus

15th Oct 2007  13:10  by Lathama

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

Not a lot more to add to previous notes! The bits of concrete are still there in the wall of the shelter. Not much of a view today but I guess it would be great when the weather was a bit clearer. Lots of pheasants and partridge about - one or two grouse also.

10th Aug 2007  20:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Revisited to see what I could find. Crumbly remains of concrete base just inside entrance to shelter cairn; a few smallish lumps of concrete - not quite missing but very nearly. Enjoyable scamper round on a Fri eve after work, en route to a weekend's Paddy Buckley Round support. Fine sunset.

29th Sep 2006  14:22  by Rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

A showery day and a late start meant this was the only trig with two other tops and a geocache. Five walks left for all the Welsh 2ks this year.

23rd Sep 2006  00:00  by bogdodger

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

5th Mar 2006  13:00  by Andy West

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

14th Jan 2006  10:45  by Father Ted

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Visited whilst doing the walk to Cadair Bronwen described in the Nutall book. What look to be some bits of the old concrete trig are now in the northernmost wall of the smaller of the two shelters, something to look for whilst sheltering from the wind eating your bananna to celebrate your achievement of having got there. The cursed 4x4s have made it this far I am afraid, come on guys this is a delicate ecosystem!

TP4856 Moel Fferna Trig remains now form part of stone shelter

9th Nov 2005  10:16  by mad max

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

2nd Sep 2005  14:48  by Chalky

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

22nd Aug 2004  16:00  by Toshiro

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

Parked in the layby just past Llidiart-y-Parc towards Corwen on the A5. Walked back to Llidiart-y-Parc and took the quite steep path up through the Carrog plantation. Millions of grouse to keep you entertained. Once out of the trees, followed the path towards the disused quarry and then turned to ascend Moel Fferna. No sign of the Trig, just an open two-chambered cairn.

Summit of Moel Fferna Just a Cairn (and Marichan)©Toshiro

24th Mar 2004  12:56  by Rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

No trig now but I remember bits of it from a visit in the mid 90's one more bitten the dust. Is the north ascent any better than from Cynwyd?

27th Dec 2003  19:20  by Keith Stevens

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

Very hostile day with biting wind and blowing snow, Five minutes scrabbling around the cairn revealed no obvious remains

Cairn where trig should have been

27th Dec 2000  11:00  by Phil Clayton

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

Above date is most recent of three visits, first on 16/09/1979. A 1986 visit revealed remains of trig point - a collection of concrete rubble around the centre mark with some of the wooden box still surviving.

28th Dec 1997  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

no details noted

10th Nov 1996  12:51  by fasgadh

FB Number: S3083  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

This pillar was reported in pieces by Nutall and Nuttall in their book of the Welsh 2000' bumps. When we visited a few years on, there were no signs of it save the odd lump of concrete.

30th Jul 1995  00:00  by mickandshane

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

There were still remains of the trig at the time of our visit(bits of concrete with the holding down loops in).Good views towards the Berwyns.

4th Apr 1985  14:45  by arranc

Gridref: SJ 11600 39700   FB Number: S3083  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

visibility 70 yards. past old slate quarry workings. 1 mile uphill slog over trackless heather. Arran put up a pheasant