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TP3452 - Great Clump
 
[UK map]
Grid reference :
Type :
Condition :
Destroyed Destroyed
Flush Bracket :
S4158
OSGB36 Station :
SE44/T67
Current use :
none
Historic use :
T:UK waypoint :
TP3452
County :
West Yorkshire
Nearest town :
KNOTTINGLEY

OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Trig NameOriginal NameNew NameEASTINGNORTHINGHEIGHTORDERTYPE OF MARKComputing DateCLASS OF LEVELLINGDate of LevellingLEVELLING DATUMDESTROYED MARK INDICATORCOMMENTS
Great ClumpSE44/T67SE44T067448848.74420529.4753.5044PILLAR01/06/1947101/10/1959N1Dest 08/79

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There are 14 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 24984th with 33 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 1.80/10 (from 41 logged visits)
Was First logged: 3rd Jun 2001
Has never been found intact
Was Last logged: 17th Apr 2024

Of the 41 logged visits,
4 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 100029m
The average error was 25021m
2 were exact

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Selection of photos for this Pillar.


©Mark-UKUS
Approximate location.
By BasilDowl
General location
©eon
Map c1953
©eon

By asbown
For what it's worth !
By rowleybirkin
ex trig site looking N
By peregrinus
See 7 more in the album.

Logged Visits:

Not Logged 17th Apr 2024  00:00  by Ronaldo333

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Great Clump S4158 Dest. From GR: SE 48447 20377. Easier parking and cut through to the PROW footpath from SE 48626 20315


Destroyed 30th Dec 2023  13:40  by nichex

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

A1 drive by at walking pace due to roadworks.


Unreachable but visible 23rd Oct 2023  14:27  by BeckyP52

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Bagged as we passed on the motorway.


Destroyed 16th Aug 2023  15:09  by Mark-UKUS

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 3/10

As with many other, I would have been over this spot about a million times before, but thought we should should try and get an appreciation for its location. Parked up by 17 Mill Hill Close and followed the FP running between he houses towards the A1. Rather than follow the path onto the road, continued left up the hill to the approximate location. Not the finest of walks, but at least now I have a bit of a feeling for the site, plus its only a 15 min detour off the A1. Rewarded ourselves with a nice pint of of Timmy Taylor Landlord at The Spread in the village.

©Mark-UKUS


Destroyed 23rd Apr 2023  14:22  by BasilDowl

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

A drive-by only, heading northbound on the A1; as others have mentioned, the OS archive states that this was destroyed in August 1979, presumably for the road expansion. Photo approximate location only.

Approximate location.


Destroyed 23rd Mar 2023  13:51  by FrankR

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 2/10


Destroyed 10th Feb 2023  10:26  by eon

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

(2861) Parked at the top of Sotheron Croft - Mill Close in retrospect would have been better - and then followed Back Lane to the A1 and then headed N to the pillars location. Nothing to see of course. Pillar history: Built on the 20th of September 1947, build cost and a last maintained date not present in the archive. Marked as destroyed in August of 1979. FB was S4158.

Map c1953 ©eon
General location ©eon


Destroyed 11th Nov 2022  13:52  by A1Mushroom

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Long gone


Destroyed 16th Oct 2022  10:30  by Mickandkim

Gridref: SE 48800 20500   FB Number: S4158  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 3/10

Drive over spot


Destroyed 16th Oct 2022  00:00  by painterman61

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

drive by


Destroyed 11th May 2019  16:03  by martin cliff

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 2/10

knew it wasn't here,checking to see if i could see it's neighbour from this location


Destroyed 7th Apr 2018  16:15  by dugswell2

FB Number: GONE   Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Long gone.


Destroyed 8th Aug 2017  01:42  by Ant1974

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 19th Jun 2017  10:58  by asbown

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

drive by only.


Destroyed 7th Apr 2017  13:51  by Particle

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 3/10


Destroyed 18th Mar 2017  00:00  by rupertal

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 2/10


Destroyed 21st Feb 2014  14:30  by rowleybirkin

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

Must have passed by this spot countless times over the years back as far as 1968 I would guess. This one will always remain a 'drive-by' as far as we are concerned and I thank others on this site who have taken the trouble to seek out remains of pillar and provide information to save us the trouble.

For what it's worth !


Destroyed 2nd Oct 2013  00:00  by dogwalking

Gridref: SK 48800 20500   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10


Destroyed 19th Mar 2013  17:15  by The RockKnocker

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

It might have been used as hard core in the new road.


Destroyed 22nd Aug 2012  17:58  by CJO

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

Drove past north bound, my standards drop a little for destroyed pillars.

Great Clump


Destroyed 20th Apr 2012  16:59  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 2/10

Site is now verge of N-bound c/way, at foot of embankment: trig would have been maybe 5m above current ground level. Parked in village and walked in from SW. Various lumps of concrete along highway fenceline make a bit of an effort with an impression of a centre hole but I suspect they're just drainage-surround-related. OS trig archive states Destroyed 08/79

ex trig site looking N


Destroyed 2nd Mar 2012  19:36  by PeteBoggs

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

Nothing to see


Destroyed 25th Oct 2011  16:54  by craftinessa

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Probably under the A1, certainly missing


Destroyed 25th Oct 2011  16:54  by swampysean

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10


Destroyed 16th Oct 2011  17:50  by Rachel-C

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 10th Oct 2011  16:19  by Border Peat

Gridref: SE 48849 20529   FB Number: S4158  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 3/10

Road cut in half with the A.1 Trunk road.


Destroyed 5th Oct 2011  10:18  by tigger4242

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 2/10

long gone

©tigger4242


Destroyed 19th Apr 2011  13:41  by johnbamforth

Gridref: SE 48849 20529   FB Number: N/A  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Log #75. (50m). Leg 3 of 8.3km x 3 trig linear walk from High Ackworth to Darrington. OS shows this trig to have been at 50m elev. Both the Grid ref and the 50m contour line show this to have been to the left of the A1(M) FP just inside the perimeter fence looking N. I climbed up the small bank to observe the high point of the arable field to the W of the hiway boundary fence, then lined up with the high point of the ground on the other side of the Motorway. This ties in with the Grid ref. The Grid ref of the boundary fence is 48844. Photo shows nothin but ground cover and trees with sidewalk down below. The whitish color to the L of that is actually a truck passing by.

Great Clump The trigpoint (best calculation I can make) I'm facing S. The hiway and sidewalk is to the left. The perimeter fence and field is just to the o/s right of frame


Destroyed 24th Jul 2010  16:00  by MAC.HAWK

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

The minor road that is Spitalgap Lane that appears to traverse to A1(M) doesnt. I came (on foot) from the east along the road passing Hunters Wood to reach a dead end at the A1(M). I didnt fancy my chances crossing both lanes of the A1(M) so had to detour via Darrington. Where the minor road passes under the flyover a footpath immediately on the right follows the motorway up towards Spitalgap Lane (when it reaches the ROW heading west you can follow the - permissive path - that runs along the eastern edge of the field the trig might have been in). If you come from the west you cant drive a car down Spitalgap Lane - bike (push or motor) will do the job, but again its a dead end when you reach the motorway. Todays view was of a dying crop of whatever in the field. NCOF!


Destroyed 11th Jul 2010  13:00  by haighr01

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

From Darrington take Philips Lane then down the path to the A1 - no path across field - at A1 head north following road. Poetically, the lumps of concrete near the high point could be the remnants of man's past endeavours taken by the road now without apology. Take the frankly once dangerous A1 junction of Spittalgap lane, now growing over, and follow Marl Pit Lane home. Nothing too great to see - on a clear day look North-East to the line of the Yorkshire Wolds, the Aire valley lies north. No Pennine view from here, try to spot Upton Water Tower on your return whilst admiring the former windmill on Moor Lane.

Trig Murder Trig Murder
Progress? Progress?


Destroyed 26th Jan 2010  17:25  by Griefmiester

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

nothing here - road widening looks like most likely reason.


Destroyed 22nd Oct 2009  12:45  by graeme1527

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10


Destroyed 22nd Oct 2009  12:45  by Trigbagger

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Yep, the road must have claimed this one. I drive past here every week and never knew this one was (or wasn`t here) as it doesn`t show on memory map, only became aware of it thanks to the tom tom upload file.


Not Logged 20th Nov 2008  18:15  by splash

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 1/10

Drove past the site on my way north.


Destroyed 28th Mar 2008  16:24  by Triggers

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Another one gone to progress


Destroyed 22nd Sep 2005  20:15  by rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

Drive by due most likely to dualing


Possibly missing 24th Jul 2005  16:55  by Kev W

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Possibly missing  Score: 0/10

Believe it now part of the A1


Destroyed 20th Nov 2004  09:50  by ted

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

A mini-mystery. Noted iainmac's log of 'couldn't find it'. According to the OS list this trig was S4158 and theres a photo with that number posted by Morseman to groups.msn.com/OSBM on 12/05/2003. So I wondered if I had somehow missed something and went for another look. Its still not there! Well-established wooden railings on the field side of the hedge are not shown in Morseman's photo so the trig must have been on the road side. But the saplings on the embankment are more that 2 years old and aren't shown in his photo either so could the trig have been moved? Found a few flakes of concrete at the highest point, but could have been from anything. Still a very noisy road.

Great Clump View from across the road. Getting across the A1 on foot is not recommended 8-)


Destroyed 3rd Jul 2004  14:20  by ted

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

This section of the A1 is not (yet) classed as motorway so access on foot is possible. But if the older OS map's indication of the west side of the road is correct then I think this one has definitely gone. It should have been very close to the stile marking where the footpath joins the road. The trig is not shown on current OS 1:25000 or 1:50000. Checked both sides of the hedge but nothing. A very noisy road.

map OS 1:50000 Sheet 105 (York) p.1977


Couldn't find it 31st Oct 2003  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

I believe this must have gone when A1M made dual carriageway.


Destroyed 3rd Jun 2001  11:30  by sleepwalker

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 1/10

Thrashed up and down the hedgerow at the side of the A1 in hope but couldn't find any trace of the pillar.



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